Debate Over Pronouns and Transgender Health Sparks Controversy on TalkTV

During a TalkTV segment, host Julia Hartley-Brewer clashed with transgender activist Shivani Dave over pronoun usage. Dave, preferring “they/them” pronouns, was introduced as “she/her” by Hartley-Brewer.

When Dave corrected her, Hartley-Brewer insisted on using “she/her,” citing “correct grammar.”

She stated, “You don’t get to require me to use incorrect grammar; you’re a female person.” Dave tried to affirm his non-binary identity, but Hartley-Brewer remained firm, emphasizing “correct pronouns” for a “single woman.” The discussion was tied to the recently released Cass Review on transgender health services.

The report highlighted a rise in young individuals seeking transgender services but criticized the variability in clinical approaches and the lack of robust data supporting early medical interventions like puberty suppression and gender-affirming hormones. The review calls for standardized NHS practices focusing on holistic care.